I am searching for information about our Scotsman, Lt. David Rose, who landed at Sydney Cove, NSW Australia January 1810 and then was relocated to Port Dalrymple, Tasmania Australia in April of the same year. He was born c1756 in Inverness. I am keen to find out exactly where he was born, etc.
hiya joey
im sure oor pat is yer man tae ask no doubt he will answer you
sandy
Hi
Just checked the two books on Officer of the Black Watch and neither have any info on Lt David Rose of the 73rd .
The 73rd was the Perthshire Regiment and I would have thought an inverness born man would have joined his local regiment back then like the 79th Foot ( Cameron Highlanders ) or maybe the 78th which became the Seaforth Highlanders .
If you know he was in the 73rd you will be right but families in Scotland join THEIR LOCAL FAMILY REGIMENT and not just any regiment . This is the reason for the disquiet in Scotland with the English Government in London merging our Scottish Regiments which have been family regiments over 200+ years ....
What info do you have at present on this Lieutenant Rose of the 73rd ?? You should contact a large library to see if they have the Army Lists for 1810 and his commission into the British Army . The Army lists will show his service or further promotions over the years as would the London Gazettes too .
The National Archives at Kew in London would have his Army Service papers if they survive .
Just some ideas at present for you
Originally Posted By: JoeyI am searching for information about our Scotsman, Lt. David Rose, who landed at Sydney Cove, NSW Australia January 1810 and then was relocated to Port Dalrymple, Tasmania Australia in April of the same year. He was born c1756 in Inverness. I am keen to find out exactly where he was born, etc.
Hi Joey and welcome to the BW Forums.
Do you know David's Parents names?
Between 1751 and 1761 there were 4 David Rose's Born in the Inverness Area.
1.
Birth: 16 APR 1756
Christening: 18 APR 1756
Croy, Inverness, Scotland
Parents: William Rose and Margaret Grant
2.
Christening: 29 MAR 1752
Croy And Dalcross, Inverness, Scotland
Parents: John Rose and Henrietta Dallas
3.
Birth: 13 JUN 1758
Christening: 18 JUN 1758
Croy And Dalcross, Inverness, Scotland
Parents: John Rose and Janet Rose
4.
Christening: 05 NOV 1761
Inverness, Inverness, Scotland
Parents: David Rose and Isable
Morning from OZ, just had a look through some of my info on the 73rd and came up with this, could be your relative,
Al
State Records NSW
Colonial Secretary Index, 1788-1825
http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/ind..._rod-ry-03.htm
ROSE, David. Lieutenant, 73rd Regiment, resigned his commission in Aug 1814; Superintendent of Government Stock at Port Dalrymple
1810 Mar 27
To receive farm allotment at Port Dalrymple (Reel 6003; 4/3490A p.54)
1811 Jan 12
Appointed Superintendent of Govt Herds at Port Dalrymple (Reel 6039, 4/426 p.65; Reel 6038, SZ758 p.255)
1812 Jun 20
Appointed Superintendent of Govt Herds, Port Dalrymple (Reel 6003; 4/3492 p.135)
1812 Oct 24-1814 Aug 6
Salary paid from the Police Fund (Reel 6038; SZ758 pp.322, 427, 516)
1813 Jan 7
Lieutenant 73rd Regiment, Launceston. Seeking permission to resign his commission (Reel 6043; 4/1728 p.373)
1813 Apr 30
Appointed to act as magistrate during absence of Dr Mountgarrett from Port Dalrymple (Reel 6003; 4/3492 p.216)
n.d.
In index to land grants in Van Diemen's Land (Fiche 3262; 4/438 pp.76, 78)
1814 Aug 18
Re indulgences he would receive as a settler at Port Dalrymple (Reel 6071; 4/6577 pp.159-60)
1815 Aug 5-1818 Aug 15
Salary paid from the Police Fund (Reel 6038; SZ759 pp.123, 154, 179, 239, 273, 317, 376, 442, 476, 493)
1816 Jan 1
On list of persons holding civil and military employments in New South Wales & its dependencies, as Superintendent at Port Dalrymple (Reel 6045; 4/1734 p.12)
1816 Feb 10
To Allan re provisions for Rose for his return to Port Dalrymple per "Mary" (Reel 6004; 4/3494 p.350)
1816 Aug 26
To receive circular re Govt & General Orders of 17 Aug re prohibition of trade to those employed under Govt (Reel 6005; 4/3495 p.111)
1816 Sep 11
To receive letter containing Govt & General Orders (Reel 6005; 4/3495 p.121)
1817 Feb 19,21
Letters instructing him to receive cattle from Jacob Mountgarrett (Reel 6005; 4/3496 pp.5, 9, 14-5)
1819-22
On list of persons owing quit rents in Van Diemen's Land; for land at Port Dalrymple (Fiche 3270; X19 p.42)
1819 Feb 20, Jun 10
Salary as Superintendent of Govt Stock at Port Dalrymple paid from the Police Fund (Reel 6038; SZ1044 pp.12, 57)
1819 May 19
Re delivery of cows and bullocks (Reel 6006; 4/3500 p.122)
1820 Mar 24
Recommending Tryce O'Key, prisoner in Van Diemen's Land, for mitigation of sentence (Fiche 3203; 4/1861 p.20)
1820 Sep 25
Superintendent of Govt Stock, Launceston. Oaths of Allegiance & Supremacy (Fiche 3304; 4/1712A pp.22-5)
Al
Patrick: Thanks alot for your clues: I previously had "timelined" most of the information that was posted by Al Saunders and as Chalky noted there are at least 3 David Rose born in the Croy Dalcross area about the time of our great, great grandfather's birth.
I do have his photo: article in the Australian Dictionary of Biography Online: photocopy of his intended resignation to Lt. Colonial O'Connell, Commanding 1st Battalion 73rd Reg with Lachlan Macquarie's signature noting "true copy" on 7/01/1813: Also, more info about his life on the 800 acres at "Corra Linn" property (sth east of Launceston, Tasmania) that Macquarie granted to David for his service.
Chalky: Thanks for your response. That is why I haven't yet pinpointed our great great grandfather's parents & place of birth, etc because of the 3 David Rose births around the same time in that area. I'm not sure yet but there could be a slim connection with the Roses at Kilravock Castle in Croy, Inverness.
Al, yes, your data is about our great great grandfather. Thanks for your quick response. I have done a timeline about our David Rose with many of these pieces of information. My ongoing task is to find out more about his earlier life and his involvement in the 73rd Regiment of Foot
from the "Apple Isle" no less, hope your weather is better than mine here, pouring down,
Have you tried the State Library of NSW? they have a lot of info on the 73rd www.sl.nsw.gov.au
There is also the 73rd regiment who have a good website http://73rdregiment.tripod.com/index.html and I know they have a lot of info about the regiment, you can contact their coordinator Kark Koen through the web site
Al
Al
Yoey,
Do you know about the HIGHLAND FAMILY HISTORY SOCIETY that is based at INVERNESS ? You may be a member of this society ?
I heard in the news recently that there was a new HIGHLAND ARCHIVES CENTRE in Inverness . (Also a new Archives Centre at Fort William for the Lochaber area ).
You mention the Rose of Kilravock and in the Officers of the Black Watch two are listed:
ROSE (OF KILRAVOCK ) Hugh , CMG, Lieut 6 Feb 1884 , capt 1890, Major 1901, Lt Col & Commanding 1st Bn 1910 , retired 1914, Camp commandant III corps 1914-1918 died Kilravock 22 Feb 1946
ROSE H , YOUNGER OF KILRAVOCK, (EC) 2ND Lt 14 march 1942, kia 1st Bn BW at Alamein 25 Oct 1942 see "the black watch andn the Kings enemies ".....
pat
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