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Thread: The History of the Red Hackle and the Broken Square

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    excellent article Chalky.. (of course 'm nicking it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckdonachie View Post
    excellent article Chalky.. (of course 'm nicking it)
    You are welcome Chuck,

    I only posted it 3 and a half years ago, lol.

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    cripes.. can you say time for the alzhiemers testing to begin.. lol my mum was right.. i think NOW id forget my head if it wasnt attached... lol
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    Thanks Chalky I missed it first time around, this age thing!!!!

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    come on Joe.. yer stealin MY EXCUSES.. hahahaaaaa
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    Nice article Chalky. If only the Black Watch had kept Journals/Diaries (all these years ago) there would not be these different views .
    Regards Eric

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    Aye Chalky,
    Great read - good post - well done!

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    I've been very busy of late and have only now had the chance to read this - an excellent article and thank you for posting it Chalky.

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    I have only just come on this post. An interesting discovery. I wish I'd seen it before

    The earliest challenge to the Geldermalsen story that I knew of was that of Brig. Bernard Fergusson in 1955. In his revised version of the ‘Short History of the Black Watch’ published that year, he described the action at Geldermalsen as having “a spurious place in regimental history… for it is certain that the Hackle has no connection with this particular battle.” Fergusson alos pioneered the alternative view that the Red Hackle started as a custom that “probably derives from the long years spent in North America.” He didn't give an explanation but his view was later borne out by the rediscovery in 1967 of Maj. Gen. James Stirling’s account of the American 'red feather' from 1822 (by written up Col. Arbuthnott in the Red Hackle, April 1982).

    The Herald article does not offer as robust a challenge as that of Brigadier Fergusson, but it shows that what he dismissed as “unfounded legend” was being subjected to sober scrutiny even earlier than it was thought. The Herald journalist did stick to tradition, though, in not reading the source materials with too much care!

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    I thin k to be able to read the article you would need to have the eyes of a House
    Yours Aye
    Tam.

    War does not decide who is right , only who is left.

    Tam Drummond
    Former Musician in the 1st Bn The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment )

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