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    I hope you do not mind me posting here. I bought this badge today from a little antiques emporium in Hythe, Kent. I would be grateful if someone could please advise on its age and the type of soldier likely to have worn it. Thank you.
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    Doug,

    Nice badge. With a King's Crown and scrolls this badge dates anywhere from the 1902-1937 time window. In 1935, The Black Watch changed its subtitle from Royal Highlanders to Royal Highland Regiment and eliminated the scrolls from the badge effective 1937. Your badge is white metal and would have been worn by Other Ranks, i.e., Private, Lance Corporal, or Corporal. Sergeants and Officers wore more elaborate bi-metal badges. Ron Marsden, who I would guess will be along soon, may possibly be able to date this more closely for you based on badge detail. Hope this helps.

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    Doug, there are 12 different die variations of the other ranks 1902-36 badges made by different companies over a 32 year period. It is possible that your example is from WW1 period as that was the time of greatest demand.
    Regards Ron.

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    Thank you to you both.

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    Another example of die 12 see my post no 212.
    The owner of this example has bowed out the annulus of the badge to give a 3D effect. Whilst it is easy to bend the arms of the cross the central area is very rigid, must have taken many hours with a small peening hammer to achieve this.


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    42nd Officers glengarry badge 1875-1881.
    Cast silver plated back star, overlay with full gilt two silver numerals to the centre.
    Very similar to my post no3, this example with a more prominent crown.
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    Cheers Ron.

    Yours Aye
    Tam.
    War does not decide who is right , only who is left.

    Tam Drummond
    Former Musician in the 1st Bn The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment )

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    If you look at post no 213, I have found the source of this badge.
    Childs size glengarry in grey felt with green silk edging and badge backing, made by Betmar Hats and retailed by Lord & Taylor Fifth Ave New York.
    Their archive department informs me that the hat was on sale in the Young-New-Yorker-Shop 1938-1942.

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    Officers glengarry badge, solid silver back star with separate scrolls fixed by copper wires.
    The star and St. Andrew in the late Victorian style overlay with a Kings Crown.
    Service wear to St.Andrew but all scrolls readable. 1902-1910.
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    I had previously described this badge as 42nd glengarry as KK 496 but in bronze possibly for SNCOs 1864-1881.
    According to Cpt Durrants notes which include a photograph of his example displayed in the Glasgow Museum in the 1950s.
    It is the 16th (Stanley) Corps Perthshire R.V. formed as one company 1861 joined 1st Admin Bn 1863 disbanded 1864.
    The two circular badges below are 18th (Perth Highland) Corps balmoral 1863-1880. The 19th (Crieff Highland) Corps balmoral 1868-1878.
    What worries me is why the Egypt battle honour is displayed?

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